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 Post subject: translate the docs
PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:43 am 
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Hi. I would like to help to translate into spanish the tutorials and the docs. But I have some problems:
- In the tutorial "following a Bline" I've found:
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If you follow the tutorial, please consider taking some shots as you do so and uploading them here...

I have the screenshots, but, How can I put them in the page?

- I have done the translation of this page: http://synfig.org/wiki/Meta:Translation but there isn't any link for it. (however I can type http://synfig.org/wiki/Meta:Translation/es and the page is that)

- I translated this http://synfig.org/wiki/Doc:Shiny_Effects/es but I can't translate the front lines:
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 Post subject: Re: translate the docs
PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:49 am 
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I have the screenshots, but, How can I put them in the page?

There is a "Upload file" menu entry in the bottom left of the wiki, once you are logged in.
Try to read the Documentation forum entries first, because the wiki structure and rules is being redefined.

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- I have done the translation of this page: http://synfig.org/wiki/Meta:Translation but there isn't any link for it. (however I can type http://synfig.org/wiki/Meta:Translation/es and the page is that)

The pages ending with "/es" are automatically added to the translation bar created by the DLP macros. I don't know if the Meta: pages are affected by the DLP macros.

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- I translated this http://synfig.org/wiki/Doc:Shiny_Effects/es but I can't translate the front lines:

Why you cannot translate them? it is a wiki problem or you don't know how translate them?

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 Post subject: Re: translate the docs
PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:55 am 
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Hi
as Genete already told you, be aware that the documentation is currently being restructured and rewritten in major parts. Tutorials might not be changed very much in the near future, so translating tutorials is fine... ;-)

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 Post subject: Re: translate the docs
PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:47 am 
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There is a "Upload file" menu entry in the bottom left of the wiki, once you are logged in.


I'm blind... :oops: Thank you.
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Why you cannot translate them? it is a wiki problem or you don't know how translate them?


Look at this: When I log in I have this page to edit:
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If I click on the first edit I have this:
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Apparently, I have no acces to the front lines... :( Help!
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Tutorials might not be changed very much in the near future, so translating tutorials is fine...

Ok. First, I'll translate some tutorials. :D


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 Post subject: Re: translate the docs
PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:51 am 
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Hi,
just don't klick the "edit" on the chapter, but instead use "edit" on top of the screen
(the button between "discussion" and "history").
That's "mediawiki" mechnics, a bit confusing I know... ;-)

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 Post subject: Re: translate the docs
PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:25 am 
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(the button between "discussion" and "history")


Ok: I'm blind. :lol:
Thanks, guys.


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 Post subject: Re: translate the docs
PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:43 am 
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No, I just had the same problem a bit earlier ;-)
If there is text that isn't part of a chapter you can only edit that by using the top-edit...
... that is confusing.

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 Post subject: Re: translate the docs
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:18 am 
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New surprise: I've added two images in the "following a Bline" tutorial, but only the first appears in the spanish translation.

Other surprise: on page http://synfig.org/wiki/Category:Tutorials, if I select "Spanish" I don't see the tutorial "following a Bline." To get there I must get from the English one.


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 Post subject: Re: translate the docs
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:02 pm 
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Rafael wrote:
New surprise: I've added two images in the "following a Bline" tutorial, but only the first appears in the spanish translation.

Image links must be added in the translated pages too.

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Other surprise: on page http://synfig.org/wiki/Category:Tutorials, if I select "Spanish" I don't see the tutorial "following a Bline." To get there I must get from the English one.

A page is listed in the category page if it is properly categorized.
Take a look to beginning of the Creating a magnifying glass (Spanish version) tutorial. Its header looks like this:
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<!-- Page info -->
{{Title|Creando una lupa}}
{{Category|Manual}}
{{Category|Tutorials}}
{{Category|Tutorials Intermediate}}
<!-- Page info end -->

It means that the Localized title of the page is Creando una lupa and that it is a Manual page and also a Tutorial page and a Tutorials Intermediate Page.
In each page the header must be updated with the proper categorization.
In case that you translate for the first time a page in a new category and you don't get it properly placed, don't worry, we'll try to fix ourself.

Finally, I would like to add that there is not any problem on do not categorize properly a tutorial or page. The only problem is that the page is not displayed as available when the category where it should be in, is listed. Nothing that cannot be fixed later.

Thanks for your work! :)

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 Post subject: Re: translate the docs
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:54 am 
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Thanks for your work!

De nada, it's a pleasure.
Thanks a lot for your explanations.
I followed your steps to start translating the basic tutorial "Interface." First I created the page by copying the original, but I get a message "warning" at the top of the page. I do not know what it means and not be removed. :(


(spanish) He seguido tus pasos para empezar a traducir el tutorial básico "Interfaz". Primero he creado la página copiando la original, pero me sale un mensaje de "warning" en la cabecera de la página. No sé qué significa y tampoco sé quitarlo.


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 Post subject: Re: translate the docs
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:32 am 
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Rafael wrote:
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Thanks for your work!

De nada, it's a pleasure.
Thanks a lot for your explanations.
I followed your steps to start translating the basic tutorial "Interface." First I created the page by copying the original, but I get a message "warning" at the top of the page. I do not know what it means and not be removed. :(


(spanish) He seguido tus pasos para empezar a traducir el tutorial básico "Interfaz". Primero he creado la página copiando la original, pero me sale un mensaje de "warning" en la cabecera de la página. No sé qué significa y tampoco sé quitarlo.

Probably some of the text is causing problem to the DLP macros that makes the translation work. Don't worry. It doesn't hurt the system, just doesn't work properly.
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 Post subject: Re: translate the docs
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:04 am 
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be aware that this tutorial is part of the restructuring/reworking of the doc.

So it will change in the near future. Maybe just wait until we did finish the english version.

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 Post subject: Re: translate the docs
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 10:43 am 
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I get a message "warning" at the top of the page


I think I know what happened: I save rather than to create :mrgreen:

Something else: I'm going to do the French translation. I just need someone to correct them (I'm already starting with "follow a Bline"). Maybe you, mad0? :D


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 Post subject: Re: translate the docs
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:43 pm 
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It's OK Rafael :)

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 Post subject: Re: translate the docs
PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 10:50 am 
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Hi, mad0. The "Following a Bline" tutorial is already translated to French: http://synfig.org/wiki/Doc:Following_a_BLine/fr
You can correct it when you have some time :D


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