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Re: Terminology rewrite sprint

Postby d.j.a.y » Tue May 07, 2013 2:49 am

Zelgadis wrote:approve all manual pages
Yep agree ...
but better to wait for the package release... no? so in the release post, we can talk about the rewrited doc.

We need also to add a banner (or something similar) to prevent the outdated state (<0.64) of all doc but main/english ....
Is it possible to add (script?) the banner/note/info/category/template ... on each page individually? it could be even better

{{Category|NewTerminology}} should be wear off ... no ?

Also i plan to prepare a little post on how to help rewrite the doc for the french community....

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Re: Terminology rewrite sprint

Postby KonstantinDmitriev » Sat May 11, 2013 4:20 am

I have approved all pages now.

Now the question:
Are we going to keep the Approval mechanism or it's better to disable it for now? Since we have no resource to moderate wiki now, I think it's ok to disable it until we need it again...
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Re: Terminology rewrite sprint

Postby d.j.a.y » Sat May 11, 2013 4:52 am

Agree with deactivating moderation.
I think that without moderation (or with people involved to do a quick moderation), it's more grateful for people wants to help in the wiki/doc.

Question: The non English docs are fully outdated now (terms + screenshot) how can we prevent readers ?
simple proposition : add a banner in http://wiki.synfig.org/wiki/Main_Page "Consequence of the Synfig Studio 0.64.0 terminology change(intra link) is a total wiki revolution. The English pages are updated, but the translations to other languages are still outdated. You can help rewriting them! (intra links : howto writers doc & howto fr/es/ru/..?. terminology change) "
Nota : fr/es/ru/ of "terminology change" must be done (i will do the french one)
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Re: Terminology rewrite sprint

Postby John Smith » Sun May 12, 2013 7:59 pm

ohoservices wrote:
Genete wrote:What about a frozen clock? -G

yes and we should rename it to frozen layer then, as this decribes much better what it does actually... :-)


I think we should rename some layers. http://wiki.synfig.org/wiki/Stroboscope_Layer
Frozen layer sounds better than Stroboscope Layer.
Another thing that should be done is to give a description of what each layer does. Some layers like this http://wiki.synfig.org/wiki/Noise_Distort_Layer don't have one

Some things don't have their parameters written like the Circle Tool http://wiki.synfig.org/wiki/Circle_Tool

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Re: Terminology rewrite sprint

Postby Genete » Mon May 13, 2013 1:48 am

d.j.a.y wrote:Agree with deactivating moderation.
I think that without moderation (or with people involved to do a quick moderation), it's more grateful for people wants to help in the wiki/doc.

Question: The non English docs are fully outdated now (terms + screenshot) how can we prevent readers ?
simple proposition : add a banner in http://wiki.synfig.org/wiki/Main_Page "Consequence of the Synfig Studio 0.64.0 terminology change(intra link) is a total wiki revolution. The English pages are updated, but the translations to other languages are still outdated. You can help rewriting them! (intra links : howto writers doc & howto fr/es/ru/..?. terminology change) "
Nota : fr/es/ru/ of "terminology change" must be done (i will do the french one)

Yes something like that would be good.
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Re: Terminology rewrite sprint

Postby d.j.a.y » Mon May 13, 2013 2:25 am

John Smith wrote:give a description
&
John Smith wrote:parameters written

Go ahead john... you can do it , even if it's in draft mode ... copying & pasting the "style" from other layer/wiki/doc

If i remember, you already have an account there?
http://wiki.synfig.org/wiki/Special:RequestAccount


Genete wrote:Yes something like that would be good.
http://wiki.synfig.org/wiki/User_Documentation & http://wiki.synfig.org/wiki/Terminology/fr updated

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Re: Terminology rewrite sprint

Postby John Smith » Mon May 13, 2013 4:37 am

https://p2pu.org/en/courses/49/writing- ... nd-beyond/
I will be learning to do wikis. By the the way why isn't there a find and replace feature in the wiki similar to microsoft word?

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Re: Terminology rewrite sprint

Postby d.j.a.y » Mon May 13, 2013 4:54 am

John Smith wrote:https://p2pu.org/en/courses/49/writing- ... nd-beyond/
I think that you don't need to go so deeper in learning ... http://wiki.synfig.org/wiki/Writer_Documentation is a good start to enhance the pages you cited.

John Smith wrote:find and replace feature
... mediawiki request ;-) . Until the day this feature is provided by mediawiki, you can do find and replace in the text editor of your choice
1) copy paste from wiki to editor
2) find and replace
3) copy paste from editor to wiki
being careful with plural and context for sure.

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Re: Terminology rewrite sprint

Postby John Smith » Thu May 16, 2013 11:47 am

I was wondering can someone fill in the wiki what all the layers do? http://wiki.synfig.org/wiki/Layer
Most of them like this http://wiki.synfig.org/wiki/Inside_Out_Layer have no description and I have no idea what they do.

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Re: Terminology rewrite sprint

Postby jcome » Sun May 19, 2013 3:04 am

John Smith wrote:I was wondering can someone fill in the wiki what all the layers do? http://wiki.synfig.org/wiki/Layer
Most of them like this http://wiki.synfig.org/wiki/Inside_Out_Layer have no description and I have no idea what they do.


yes, the layers wiki page you ref to is outdated and there is another page under maintained is http://wiki.synfig.org/wiki/Category:Layers

we need to redirect to the unmaintained to new page.
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Re: Terminology rewrite sprint

Postby KonstantinDmitriev » Mon May 20, 2013 4:40 am

Hi! I am working right now to put a banner with the instructions to all translation pages not updated with new terminology.

Important note: For technical reasons, from now on we have to change the way how pages are marked as updated. Now, instead of {{Category:NewTerminology}} please use just {{NewTerminology}}.

For existing pages: I will replace all occurrences of {{Category:NewTerminology}} automatically.

The instructions in the top post are updated. Thank you!
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Re: Terminology rewrite sprint

Postby d.j.a.y » Tue May 21, 2013 1:47 am

Zelgadis wrote:Hi! I am working right now to put a banner with the instructions to all translation pages not updated with new terminology.
massive .... !

i have done some minor (mostly intra link --> http://wiki.synfig.org/wiki/Terminology) change on
http://wiki.synfig.org/wiki/Dev:Sprints ... erminology
http://wiki.synfig.org/wiki/Main_Page
http://wiki.synfig.org/wiki/Writer_Documentation
http://wiki.synfig.org/wiki/User_Documentation

Please update/create http://wiki.synfig.org/wiki/Terminology in missing language

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Re: Terminology rewrite sprint

Postby KonstantinDmitriev » Tue May 21, 2013 2:40 am

Good work, djay!
Small note: please don't forget to use {{L| ... }} form for the links instead [[ .. ]] form - http://wiki.synfig.org/wiki/index.php?t ... ldid=18201 . We need to keep this consistent. ^___^
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Re: Terminology rewrite sprint

Postby Genete » Tue May 21, 2013 3:01 am

Excuse me guys, can I see an example of a banner of an outdated non English page? Is there anyone or it is pending of creating the banner?
Thank you for your work!
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Re: Terminology rewrite sprint

Postby KonstantinDmitriev » Tue May 21, 2013 6:24 am

Genete wrote:Excuse me guys, can I see an example of a banner of an outdated non English page? Is there anyone or it is pending of creating the banner?

I'm still working on it. ^__^


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